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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Slag on Sat May 05, 2012 3:19 am

The issue was that she wasn't acting in the same manner. There's a difference between 'I'm late for a report and IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!' and 'That bitch is trying to steal my brother, SHE MUST BE EVIL!' She didn't have any of the evidence of the mental breakdown from Lesson Zero or even... that time-travel episode, where she showed a nice bit of physical symptoms along with her raging insanity. All through the wedding preparations, she was perfectly well-groomed and was, other than yelling at Cadance, acting perfectly normal.

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Kaijyuu on Sat May 05, 2012 3:31 am

The only part that didn't seem right to me concerning that was she didn't talk to Princess Celestia. Beyond her friends, Celestia seems like the first person Twilight would try to confide in. I wrote that off though as lacking in time to show a relatively unimportant scene that wouldn't of changed the outcome in any way.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Slag on Sat May 05, 2012 3:35 am

The nice thing about it is at least if they ever do manage to make a proper movie, we all know it's going to be absolutely bitchin'.

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Flying Dice on Sat May 05, 2012 5:31 am

If it involves four elemental crystals and a dark knight pony working for redemption, I will be unspeakably excited.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Kaijyuu on Sat May 05, 2012 5:36 am

I want them to do something with Tartarus. You can't offhandedly mention something like that and not take advantage of it!
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Necro910 on Sat May 05, 2012 5:50 am

I like this thread, it's very 'splodey.

Kaijyuu wrote:I want them to do something with Tartarus. You can't offhandedly mention something like that and not take advantage of it!
Oh, they will. They will.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Slag on Sat May 05, 2012 5:53 am

I think if they made a movie based off anything it would be awesome. Hell, they could do an extended Very Special Episode and it would be awesome, if a little awkward. They could have Pinkie freak out about burning a cake and it would still be entertaining.

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Necro910 on Sat May 05, 2012 5:55 am

Slag wrote:I think if they made a movie based off anything it would be awesome. Hell, they could do an extended Very Special Episode and it would be awesome, if a little awkward. They could have Pinkie freak out about burning a cake and it would still be entertaining.
Burning a cake.

With sand.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Flying Dice on Sat May 05, 2012 7:58 am

Necro910 wrote:I like this thread, it's very 'splodey.

Kaijyuu wrote:I want them to do something with Tartarus. You can't offhandedly mention something like that and not take advantage of it!
Oh, they will. They will.
Nah. That'll be the bootleg 18+ fanmade version.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Necro910 on Sat May 05, 2012 8:08 am

Flying Dice wrote:
Necro910 wrote:I like this thread, it's very 'splodey.

Kaijyuu wrote:I want them to do something with Tartarus. You can't offhandedly mention something like that and not take advantage of it!
Oh, they will. They will.
Nah. That'll be the bootleg 18+ fanmade version.
I shudder in horror at what it will contain.

Because we all know what it will.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Dsarker on Sat May 05, 2012 8:22 am

What does Twilight do in LZ? She develops an obsession with something that borders on hysteria. And the others say "Just Twilight being Twilight, nothing to worry about."

In the finale? She develops an obsession with something that, once more, borders on hysteria. And what do the others say? "Just Twilight being Twilight. Nothing to worry about."

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Sean Mirrsen on Sat May 05, 2012 8:48 am

In LZ, she develops an obsession over an, objectively, trivial thing, and her friends dismiss her concerns entirely on account of that, even though she requires nothing but advice of them.

In ACW, she develops an obsession over a potentially major thing, and requires/demands quite a lot of others, in addition throwing quite serious accusations around. She is not dismissed entirely, but taking the earlier lesson into account, she is seen as obsessing over a minor thing and overreacting, in addition insulting a fairly high guest this time. From the others' PoV, their reactions are justified. They basically boil down to "Twilight, this is serious. You're obsessing over nothing again, stop it before you make a mess like last time." A more appropriate lesson would be the one from Swarm of the Century about listening to your friends, but the problem is that this time, everyone can understand Twilight's concerns, and see their own, plausible reasons for their existence. Heck, even Twilight is convinced she's wrong in the end.

Nobody listened to her because despite there being a potential for a genuine problem, there are completely plausible causes for what Twilight presents as evidence, and because she has a track record of obsessing over literally nothing. It's About Time, anyone? Combined with the fact that complying to her would create a lot of inconvenience for everyone involved, it's no wonder everyone shot her concerns down. The Queen's mind control over Shining was a definite help in that regard, too.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Kaijyuu on Sat May 05, 2012 10:29 am

Mmm yeah, just because they learn a lesson doesn't mean they're magically going to know exactly how to handle every similar situation in the future.


Twilight's friends did ask what was wrong. They did show concern. But Twilight exploded at them when they tried to give advice. I felt all their actions were 100% reasonable (barring, again, no one going to Celestia, the wise mentor figure who gives advice).
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Flying Dice on Sat May 05, 2012 5:32 pm

And again, when Celestia did react to the situation, they saw her treat it exactly as they had been: as Twilight throwing a fit because she was "losing" her brother. Twilight has a history of making mountains out of molehills, and there was absolutely zero indication that this was any different, with the added bit about there being an understandable reason for her to be freaking out.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Andal on Sat May 05, 2012 5:36 pm

Not to mention Celestia was already distracted by both the wedding preparations and safeguarding Canterlot (great job on that last one, eh, God-Queen?).
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Flying Dice on Sat May 05, 2012 7:55 pm

Honestly, I'm liking the idea that she's just immortal and crazy prepared, with highly specific powers.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Andal on Sat May 05, 2012 8:34 pm

Flying Dice wrote:Honestly, I'm liking the idea that she's just immortal and crazy prepared, with highly specific powers.

I feel the same way. "God-Queen" is more because she's both a mythological deity figure, and an administrator, not because she's omnipotent.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Kaijyuu on Mon May 07, 2012 5:06 am

I've decided that I loathe Shining Armor.

Every time he opens his mouth I want to punch him in the face. Extra punches for "Twiley."

His attitude is just so... grating.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Slag on Mon May 07, 2012 5:24 am

His attitude isn't too bad. I admit I cringe at 'Twiley' but it's a lot less stupid than some nicknames I've heard.

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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Flying Dice on Mon May 07, 2012 3:11 pm

There have been worse Big Brothers.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Loud Whispers on Mon May 07, 2012 5:33 pm

The whole mind control thing isn't explained that well either.

"So... You were cheating on me."

"Nope. See, she was a shapeshifter! She looked just like you! And er... Mind control! Yeah that was it, magic and shit."
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Flying Dice on Mon May 07, 2012 5:48 pm

You all realize that this essentially means that there is a date-rape spell. Da fuq.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Necro910 on Mon May 07, 2012 6:03 pm

Flying Dice wrote:You all realize that this essentially means that there is a date-rape spell. Da fuq.
Let's see:

Want-Need spell
Love potion that can be made by fillies with no previous experience
and a changeling's magic.

Mentlegen, we have breakfast ready.
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Zangi on Mon May 07, 2012 11:43 pm

Flying Dice wrote:You all realize that this essentially means that there is a date-rape spell. Da fuq.
You are just asking this now?
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Re: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Post  Slag on Mon May 07, 2012 11:51 pm

I wouldn't doubt that the more powerful magic users could probably have enough magic potential to completely control another being without exerting a terrible amount of effort. I also wouldn't doubt that such things are the kind of stuff that would get a few ponies a literal trip to the moon or some other capital or near-capital punishment.

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